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As a result of the Easter farrago of climate change protests and programmes I have decided that I will reduce my carbon footprint. One of the surprising things I have just learnt is how big this foot print is if you have anything to do with cows or sheep that produce the evil methane (ten times more deadly that CO2) in their gut. A couple of steaks or milk drinks each evening contribute more to the planet's down fall apparently than meandering about in the car.

I don't eat a lot of beef and hardly any lamb but I do drink milk. We seem to go through a four pint bottle every few days. Where it goes I know not for apart from my morning porridge we only have milk in tea or coffee. But there you are. And I eat butter in great quantity.

Milk substitutes are foul and evil. But how about a milk blend? Suppose you dilute your milk with oat milk or almond? And suppose you started with full cream milk rather than semi-skinned? Is it not possible that you could find a recipe that was a decent compromise between taste and carbon footprint?

I am going to try some mixtures; it would be great if anyone else would do the same. We could then compare notes. Anyone up for this?Very HappyVery Happy

Posted at 24th Apr 2019 - 08:46AM   Posted by Fennie   Saving the Planet Comments: 9

Withy Brook's Avatar Sorry Fennie- not for me. By the way, you would do better for yourself as well as the planet by cutting right back on butter!

Posted by: Withy Brook on 24th Apr 2019 at 09:02AM

Camilla's Avatar Not for me either Fennie I absolutely loathe milk so much so that if I drank even a tiny amount I would be sick as a dog. It's strange though if I made a home made rice pudding which I seldom do these days for HL I could eat a little of it with jam.

My DIL is a Vegan since she was 18 she has a butter spread named PURE which has no dairy products in it she also has non dairy milk and non dairy ice cream named Swedish Glaze.

I don't eat lamb (little frolicking creatures ) hardly eat beef although I do eat chicken sometimes. I love fish full of protein but even then I worry about them being fished out of the sea... I could quite easily be a veggie but being a vegan one would need to replace what you are not getting in meat especially red meat my old doc used to say.

Posted by: Camilla on 24th Apr 2019 at 10:23AM

Fairy Nuff's Avatar Just to play Devil's advocate here...Twisted Evil

Do you realise how much water it takes to grow almonds for example for all that almond milk? or how much rain forest has been decimated to grow that soya?

All food production has an impact on the environment and if you add in the air miles to get the milk alternatives to you from the Americas or Australia where much of it is produced you would be more environmentally sound drinking that cows milk from the organic farm just down the road.
While you are at it then the odd bit of steak or mince from that dairy herd has less than a third of the environmental impact that a purely beef herd has, as does the lamb (which also makes milk and wool) and the chicken even less.
Not to mention the pesticides needed for the vegetable crops if you decide to go vegan, unless you go in for genetic modification, both can have a devastating effect on our natural insect populations which keep all the non food plants alive that we need for our climate to survive.

Other than mass global genocide Shocked the best thing we can do is eat local produce from small scale and organic producers and not expect our food to be so cheap or exotic, that banana, kiwi or mango should be an occasional treat and UK fruit bowls should be full of apples, pears and plums. Small scale animal husbandry on mixed agriculture farms produces not just meat but organic fertiliser and weed control and is far more sustainable than any mono culture.
Essentially we need to go back to farming and producing food the way we did a century ago but with modern knowledge of our climate and environmental impacts... now where did I put my Shire horse? Wink

Posted by: Fairy Nuff on 24th Apr 2019 at 11:41AM

Fennie's Avatar You talk a lot of sense FN. I wouldn't disagree with you. I do like my bananas though which in any case come by ship (and used to come in to Barry (just down the road), which was a Fyffes town.

I don't really think it matters what we do, we're all doomed anyway (hardly worth repairing Notre Dame when you come to think of it). We shall be OK but I fear for Theo and Beanie and their children. Populations boom and crash and ours will be no different. We are the same as mice or locusts: a two-legged plague of Egypt! What is the secret of the woodlouse or the bee? They don't seem to cause plagues or global warming?

Oh well the message seems to be keep taking the tablets and drink a pinta milka day.

I remember that song of Tom Lehrer's from the 50's? We shall all go together when we go (every Hottentot and every Eskimo - no-one will have the endurance to collect on his insurance, Lloyd's of London will be Loaded when they go!) Admittedly he was thinking about nuclear catastrophe rather than global warming, but the end result will be much the same.

On the other hand ' There may be trouble ahead . . . but while there's music and love and romance, let's face the music and dance.

SadSad Very HappyVery Happy

Posted by: Fennie on 24th Apr 2019 at 12:02PM

Camilla's Avatar Two very interesting good comments there I think.Very Happy

Posted by: Camilla on 24th Apr 2019 at 12:42PM

Fairy Nuff's Avatar Funnily enough I've just been reading an article about mass produced clothing and how it turns out more pollution than international aviation and shipping combined! Shocked
It drives me up the wall trying to find more natural fabrics - everything seems to be made of polyb****yester these days. Rolling Eyes
So that woollen jumper, tweed skirt and leather shoes would be more useful to the planet too... from your sustainably farmed sheep and cows of course.
Your banana should still be a treat at Christmas though along with your satsuma. Laughing

Posted by: Fairy Nuff on 24th Apr 2019 at 01:08PM

Fennie's Avatar Who'd have thought that the wool that in the past built our great churches and medieval cathedrals would today be worthless or almost so. Not worth the cost of shearing the sheep for.

Still I hear you can make clothes from recycled plastic bottles.

Posted by: Fennie on 24th Apr 2019 at 02:22PM

Withy Brook's Avatar I cheered all the way through your post, FN! Every word was sense.
Bananas are a problem for me! I have eaten them nearly every day all my life - bar during the war when I don’t know how I survived! Once, in hospital, they could not work out why my Potassium level was so low, till I told them about me and bananas! Once I restarted them all was well. Nowadays I eat 3 a week. By the way, Camilla, ships are as bad as aeroplanes!

Posted by: Withy Brook on 24th Apr 2019 at 04:19PM

Fairy Nuff's Avatar As a very wise man once said (even if it was in a film script and about dinosaurs!)...

"Nature doesn't need our presence to survive, it needs our absence."Very Happy

Posted by: Fairy Nuff on 25th Apr 2019 at 10:01AM

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