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Women MP's

Now I know we don't get party political on here, but this aint.

With the death of Gwynneth Dunwoody today do we have any decent women MP's. Apparently there are several high ranking Labour women, with some even in the Cabinet but I cannot name them. I know that most MP's whatever their gender are pretty useless, but I do ask myself would they have got there without positive discrimination. Where have all the old firebrands gone. We seem to be left with just simpering, party line toeing Blair babes in Government and God only knows who is in the Opposition.

Whatever colour your politics, and whether you agreed with them or not, I feel Parliament is missing the likes of Clare Short, Mo Mowlem, Anne Widecombe, Mrs. Thatch, Edwina and going back a bit Barbara Castle and Shirley Williams.

Discuss.

Posted at 18th Apr 2008 - 01:34PM   Posted by Toady   Women MP's Comments: 10

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yes with you all the way, I especially liked Mo Mowlem and Clare Short, though never much cared for their politics. Edwina seems a lunatic bent of self destruct, and Mrs T I though for many reasons was amazing, she had balls, (irrespective of whether you agreed with her politics) something the current incumbents lack.

They are all grey men and women now, and there's not breathing space between any of them or their policies.

RIP Gwynneth Dunwoody.

Posted by: ZoŽ on 18th Apr 2008 at 01:41PM

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Mountainear's Avatar Nope, I'm not going to get political either. Have to agree with you Toady.

Also I think GD was a glowing example of what a politician should be - extremely hard working and committed - without a trace of the self importance or the whiff of sleaze that seems to inflict so many of her colleagues on all sides of the house.

RIP GD.

Posted by: Mountainear on 18th Apr 2008 at 02:25PM

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Inthemud's Avatar Totally agree with you

Posted by: Inthemud on 18th Apr 2008 at 02:40PM

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Withy Brook's Avatar Agreed. As for the sleeze it has hit even some of those you mention but somehow they seem to do it with more stile! But how John could have possibly got together with Edwina - words fail me!!

Posted by: Withy Brook on 18th Apr 2008 at 03:01PM

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Unpeuloufoque's Avatar With you Toady all the way, I think it is a sad comment on Politics when there are so few women with guts gumption and verve about reagrdless of which side of the House they sit.The whole of society seems to be dumming down so that no one wants to be a bit different or dare to be politically incorrect.

Posted by: Unpeuloufoque on 18th Apr 2008 at 04:07PM

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Crystal Jigsaw's Avatar Definitely agree too! Bring back Anne Widdecombe - she was fab, the country could do with some force behind the smile from time to time. I'm no way politically minded myself but I do wonder why we are governed by a male majority. Stick a few more women in the Cabinet and we might get some worthwhile decisions made, not to mention a few more promises kept. And it would probably improve the waffle Evil or Very Mad

CJ xx

Posted by: Crystal Jigsaw on 18th Apr 2008 at 04:38PM

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Muddyboots's Avatar think it is a sign of the times, all MPs whatever their sex are career politicians, looking to tow the party line and protect their seats at the next election, the firebrand is now non-pc! can you imagine a modern day politician doing a 'rivers of blood' speech? MPs should be chosen on ability not sex, women are not 2nd class citizens and doing a quota is turning us into just that! Credentials needed to be an MP, lie, lie and lie again and get out sorry resign just before **** hits the fan!

Posted by: Muddyboots on 18th Apr 2008 at 06:02PM

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Peterwf's Avatar I think we have come a long way since the days when we struggled to find a good person in the subjugated sub sections of society.

Politics is a murky pool, with old school resistance in many places.
If they can't get at you through your policies, they will go round the back and find some dirt.

I look forward to who the next election will bring to the fore.

Posted by: Peterwf on 18th Apr 2008 at 06:51PM

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Milla's Avatar The trouble is, as it seems to me, is that women MPs have to be just that, WOMEN MPs. Somehow having to be more this or bigger that, or more noticeable the other. I have as soft a spot for ole growly barking mad Anne W as anyone, CJ. but really it is just so humiliating somehow how our gender has to be remarkable. The female MPs one encounters always have to be picked out for various grossness (am as bad at this as the next). Somehow they are all freakshow, booming, pantomime, forever picked up on ill=advised sartorial moments in a way that men just never are. The few men that are individualised are generally done so affectionately = Boris, Ken, Hezzer, Alan C, etc. While the women are rounded upon for lardiness, red jackets, puck me shoes, all marks of our inability to somehow be adult and normal and non-judgmental. Aargh, am sure should check this but a greater thing calls, a round up of Loud Mouths from Apprentices past. WW won't know WHAT I'm talking about, but can some of you forgive me for ranting, not checking my homework, chucking it in the pigeon hole and RUNNING!!! xx

Posted by: Milla on 18th Apr 2008 at 08:58PM

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Grouse's Avatar I've just realised that this is the appeal (For some, if you see it) of Boris- love him or hate him.......he doesnt give a damn.

I've been in local government for a year and, yes, the most effective members are those that put ethics befre votes.

Very sad that we regard the few in central govt that do so as oddballs.

Posted by: Grouse on 18th Apr 2008 at 09:06PM

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