Cowart's Common Room
Lunctime Question . . .dogs . . .

Soup and a sandwich anyone . . .

I was listening to the radio yesterday and they were inviting people to phone in and talk about their experience of being attacked by dogs . . . and as you know our JRT was attacked and seriously injured - twice.

So the question is . . . as a nation are we responsible enough to be keeping dogs - clearly some people are not . . .

If you are in charge of a dog especially the bigger, more aggressive breeds which are capable of causing sever injury and even death should we go back to dog owners having to have a dog licence - or some way of registering their dogs and should they all have to go to training classes in the same way that you have to have a driving licence to drive a car. Although how it would be policed I have no idea. Perhaps the penalties for dog owners whose dogs attack should be much higher . . .

Your thoughts.

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Posted at 11th Nov 2009 - 12:04PM   Posted by Westerwitch   Lunctime Question . . .dogs . . . Comments: 7

I think as with all things in life, the irresponsible few spoil it for the majority and get dog owners a bad name.

Owning a dog should be regarded as a privileged, not a right, and along with that privilege, people should accept the responsibility for making sure it is well trained, properly wormed and immunised, isn't allowed to roam at will, and owners clear up after them.

I do think there are some dogs that should be banned, and that more should be done to stop people who use dogs as 'weapons' to intimidate others, or look 'big' should be prevented from owning them.

I can't see the justification for some breeds at all, and as they are man-made, and not natural species, I think it should be illegal to breed from some breeds so that they are phased out. I would extend the illegal breeds further (currently Pit Bull Terriers, Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino, Filo Braziliero or any cross bred animal from these types) to include some of the Mastiff types too.

I also think that maybe mandatory insurance should go along with Pet ownership, not only to cover vet bills and the like, but also public liability. I think this would improve the lot of animals, and everyone else. As animals that were not insured would be seized in exactly the same way uninsured cars are. It may may people think twice about the cost and responsibility of having a pet before acquiring one too.

Posted by: Zoe on 11th Nov 2009 at 02:07PM

Westerwitch's Avatar Yup . . . lots of nodding here . . .

Certainly the breed that attacked our JRT was a Tibetan Mastiff and two female litter mates . . . on the TM official website it advises not to get female litter mates. The owner did not really understand dogs and their pack system and we all paid the price. Which is the nub of the problem . . . people take on dogs without understanding dog psychology - and to integrate a dog into your life you do need to have the basics.

Perhaps people should be made to sit and watch a day of the Dog Whisperer!

Posted by: Westerwitch on 11th Nov 2009 at 02:36PM

Blackbird's Avatar I'm in favor of licensing every dog, and making the owners responsible for any problems that their dogs cause. Dogs that have attacked people, other dogs or livestock should be put down.

I'm not in favor of dog breed bans because I think that, with good breeding and training, there is nothing inherently dangerous with any individual breed.

It is very true that large breeds can do much damage if they attack or fight and it's also true that these breeds attract the worst kind of owner. But, there are many good dogs and responsible owners of those same breeds.

I think that the development of new breeds whose primary purpose is to intimidate and attack should not be allowed.

My last dog was a 120 pound Rottweiler who lived to be 7 years old and died of cancer. I knew as an owner of a 'dangerous' breed of dog that I had to be extra vigilant in my keeping Charlie confined to my home, garden and on the leash. I have one friend who refused to visit my home while Charlie was alive. He was attacked 3 times before he was a year old- by 2 different black Chows and an unneutered male chocolate lab. The lab lived next door and was never on a leash so I made the decision to keep Charlie confined to the yard.

Jack has been attacked by 2 different dogs that were off the leash- both Golden Retrievers.

I think that every dog owner must be responsible- get themselves and their dog trained, keep the dog under control or on a leash at all times and, of course, pick up poop. And that is true- regardless of the dog breed.

Posted by: Blackbird on 11th Nov 2009 at 04:56PM

Toady's Avatar Yep dog licences, no selling of dogs without a permit, all dogs to be spayed unless you can prove that you are qualified to breed. When we go to Dog Rescue for ours it saddens me that although we have chosen one, there are 50 others needing loving homes.

Posted by: Toady on 11th Nov 2009 at 05:32PM

Camilla's Avatar Totally agree with what Zoe has said, and think there should be a Dog License for owners of dogs, this will at least make the future owners think about their responsibilty before taking on a dog.

I agree with Mandatory Insurance, but on a sliding scale according to the ferocity of the dog's breed.

Posted by: Camilla on 11th Nov 2009 at 05:41PM

Patsy's Avatar Oh just don't get me started on badly behaved dogs...and their owners..Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
You really don't want to see me ranting on my soap box about this one Shocked

Posted by: Patsy on 11th Nov 2009 at 10:56PM

What? Patsy? On a soap box? Do tell! Very Happy

I'm sure, in your days of veterinary practice, you never had an irresponsible dog owner for a client. Right? Wink

In our son's neighbourhood, not too far from ours, big dogs are the "security system of choice." Rottweilers were originally bred for herding and pulling small carts. Now, they're bred for nastiness as guard dogs and sold to people whose temperament is equally nasty. The poor Rotties! Which is why I carry a fairly large stick when I walk the Sadie pup -- at least in some parts of town. I don't bother to speak very loudly -- the Rotties and others wouldn't understand me anyhow.

Grr@$#%$^&@rr. (That's what Bears say then they're annoyed or disgusted.)

Posted by: Rob-bear on 12th Nov 2009 at 04:14AM

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