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Can you beelieve it

Just discovered that our community bee hives are now no longer likely to go ahead. Health and safety concerns (and fear of prosecutions) being the prime reason why not.

The Parish Council, sought the advise of local farmers and bee keepers in setting this up, to discover that there is an ever increasing incidence of people trying to prosecute them for bee stings they have received!

The Parish Council simply can't afford to defend against such court cases, so the only way to avoid it, is avoid the circumstances that would allow cash greedy fools to try their luck. What the hell is society coming to when these unscrupulous ambulance chasing type prosecutions are allowed. It's gone beyond ridiculous. Evil or Very Mad

Posted at 10th Nov 2009 - 02:12PM   Posted by Zoe   Can you beelieve it Comments: 14

Mountainear's Avatar When I kept bees in my suburban garden the possibility that someone else, ie a neighbour, would be stung and decide to take me to court. I was told then that bees, flying outside my garden could be considered 'wild animals' and outside of my control and therefore not my responsibility.

Fortunately this theory was never tested as I moved them out into the countryside where I was accused of letting them sting cattle. Duh!

Sorry your community hives can't go ahead - bee-keeping is a wonderful thing and can be enjoyed by so many people on all sorts of levels and aspects.

Sad;y I no longer keep bees as I developed an allergy to their stings - but I'm tempted. Very tempted.

Posted by: Mountainear on 10th Nov 2009 at 03:10PM

Ivy's Avatar What next? I mean you can't sue anybody if you are stung by a wasp. And as far as I know, when you have wasps there are no bees and the other way around! What about wild bees? How does the person who is stung by a bee know if it was your's anyway as bees travel for many miles!

Posted by: Ivy on 10th Nov 2009 at 03:16PM

Lampworkbeader's Avatar How daft. I have a friend who keeps a hive of bees in a very urban area of London. My close neighbours keep bees. Maybe your Parish Council is being a bit over cautious here.

Posted by: Lampworkbeader on 10th Nov 2009 at 03:30PM

Preseli Mags's Avatar Surely there would need to be proof of whose bee it was? What are they going to do - a bee identity parade? Line up the suspects and get the stung person to point out the one that did it?

Actually bees die after they've stung you - so you'd have a body. Would there have to be a bee autopsy? Or would you have to get its relatives to come and identify the corpse and admit liability?

Has the world gone completely nuts? I think you should sue the Parish Council for failing to provide adequate numbers of bees and therefore not save the planet.

Posted by: Preseli Mags on 10th Nov 2009 at 04:03PM

LOL Mags, dont tempt me.

The hives were to be sited on Common Land, and there lies the problem. People who don't understand bees have complained, and anecdotal evidence from local 'experts' about problems they have encountered have put them off, as it would be too costly to defend any claim. Just employing someone qualified to research the law and advise is beyond the means they wish to allocate to the project. We are only a community of some 5000 over a largish area, so they don't have a large budget.

The idiots win, they always do.

Posted by: Zoe on 10th Nov 2009 at 04:16PM

Faith's Avatar What a shame Zoe, that really is a shameSad

Posted by: Faith on 10th Nov 2009 at 04:17PM

Withy Brook's Avatar Another sign of a world gone mad. And self-destructive too as without bees we will not get enough to eat.

Posted by: Withy Brook on 10th Nov 2009 at 04:42PM

Tiggywinkle's Avatar So sorry and angry to hear this Zoe. H&S or litigation yet again. I read a book years ago for research called "The demise of common Sense" about the advent of litigation, and how detrimental it would be to society. It seemed a bit far fetched at the time, but one only has to look at things today to see how true it was. We are becoming a dishonest wus ridden society. Children can't even play naturally in the school yard anymore, in case they fall. We all survived. Oo I get so mad.

Posted by: Tiggywinkle on 10th Nov 2009 at 07:59PM

Westerwitch's Avatar ShockedShockedShocked So . . . er . . . do we ban bees in case people get stung . . . perhaps we should ban all biting insects . . . including midges . . . yeah lets wipe out all insects . . . Rolling Eyes

Posted by: Westerwitch on 10th Nov 2009 at 08:37PM

Preseli Mags's Avatar I'm all for getting rid of midges! Do we need them? Little b****rs. Evil or Very Mad

Posted by: Preseli Mags on 10th Nov 2009 at 10:47PM

Frances's Avatar Oh Zoe, crazy times are upon us.

Still hope that there might be some way for your bee project to prevail. It just seems rediculous for it to be abandoned.

I also don't think that when young folks start training to be lawyers, they have in the back of their minds that ... some day they might keep a local group from raising bees.

The world does have strange ways of evidencing evolution.


Posted by: Frances on 10th Nov 2009 at 11:38PM

Camilla's Avatar That is awful Zoe, we need the Bee's and what shall I do without my daily intake of that gorgeous honey.!


Posted by: Camilla on 11th Nov 2009 at 01:20AM

Boudicca23's Avatar Have you thought about writing to the local press and pointing out the sheer stupidity of it? Might it help?

Posted by: Boudicca23 on 11th Nov 2009 at 01:08PM

Cait's Avatar I wouldn't give in to the b*****ds

Especially as the world needs bees,

give it some media attention.

Posted by: Cait on 11th Nov 2009 at 02:18PM

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